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Violence against humanitarian personnel — predominantly local humanitarians serving their own communities — has risen sharply amid declining respect for international humanitarian law (IHL).","description":"This event proposes concrete actions to strengthen the protection of humanitarian personnel, with particular attention to local staff. It will center on the Declaration for the Protection of Humanitarian Personnel (Declaration) as a practical framework which complements and reinforces existing efforts to promote respect for IHL, including UN Security Council Resolution 2730. Discussion will focus on how Member States can translate commitments into action by strengthening accountability, supporting system-wide reforms, and ensuring the conditions to enable humanitarian personnel to operate safely and effectively in high-risk and complex environments. Discussions will advance commitments under the Declaration by: Centering frontline voices and survivor perspectives to reflect operational realities and priorities for change. Sharing operational insights on working to uphold IHL, strengthen duty of care obligations, and more effectively protect local responders Highlight UN perspectives on how reforms are reshaping protection outcomes and identify where additional Member State support is needed. Supporting Member States implement commitments under the Declaration and UNSC Resolution 2730 to improve protection for international, national and local personnel. Event organized by the Permanent Mission of Australia and Permanent Mission of Canada. 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