Outer Space: Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space, Scientific and Technical Subcommittee, 63rd session, 1051th meeting

Good afternoon, distinguished delegates. I now declare open the 1051st meeting of the Scientific and Technical Subcommittee of the Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space. Distinguished delegates, this afternoon we will continue our consideration of Agenda Item 18, the report to the Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space. I hope everyone agrees on the proposal— the proposed schedule.

Yes.

All right, thank you. So, thank you again. Thank you very much for the informal meeting this morning. After we discussed and exchanged the idea, the chair team, chair and the secretary team, come up with a draft, the new draft that we believe that it accommodates all the inputs. From the floor, from you guys. So what we're going to do now, we're going to post on the screen the draft that we made based on your input, trying to accommodate everyone, every country's viewpoint, just for your consideration. Is there any strong objections on that?

No.

Please. Yes, please. China, please.

Thank you, Chair. In general, China can go along with this draft. Just one information we would like to share with other members of this subcommittee, the General Assembly Resolution 1348 was also adopted by voting with 9 member states voting against it. So I hope the Secretary can confirm that will have no impact on the authority of that resolution. There's no misunderstanding the way of adoption of the resolution will have any impact on the authority of that resolution. If that is the general agreement, we can go along with reference to that document. Thank you.

Thank you, China. Esket, can you confirm on that?

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair, for giving me the floor. In response to the comment made by the distinguished delegation of China, the Secretary would like to confirm that the General Assembly resolution, whether it's voted or not, if it's adopted, then it gives the authority to give the mandate to the Committee and its subsidiary bodies. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

Thank you. So please again consider the draft that the Chair prepared again, please.

Thank you, Chair, and thank you— thanks to both you and the Secretariat and all the delegates for all the work over the past several hours and days to make progress on this issue. I'll just note that my delegation will need a bit more time to consider this text, so we are not prepared to weigh in at this point, but we'll get back as soon as possible.

Thank you.

Thank you.

All right.

I know it's important.

Please, yeah, consider carefully. So it's— I believe that you are in principle okay, but of course some nations may need some some time to consider. I just want to propose, you know, can we continue with the— we keep like this for a few more minutes? Please note that there is no strong objection or any objection, you know. Of course, we still have some time too for you guys to consult with your committee or your team before you conclude on this statement again, so that we can go back to the positive report again.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think the text on the screen is a compromise. I believe it— I hope it can be acceptable for Brazil. We also need some time to confirm that with capital, but I believe we are on a good path. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Yes, Egypt, please.

Thank you, Chair. Just because we're in the big room, so also I will reiterate our appreciation for you and for the Secretariat and all the distinguished colleagues who contributed to this outcome. We are still looking into it within the broader constituency, including the African states, and we'll get back to you on So maybe since many delegations are still studying it, maybe we can take a pause for an allocated time and reconvene again to discuss this paragraph. Thank you.

Thank you, Egypt. Very good proposal. How about this? Because we have very limited time for this afternoon, of course, there are 2 choices. First, we take a break. Second, we continue starting to consider the procedural report.

Okay, first choice.

There's no vote, but— well, yeah. So how about we pause? I think we might need to pause a bit, you know, but thank you very much for coming back and we pause for maybe— Half an hour, enough? Brazil, please.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think it would help our consultations with capital if we had the text of the report. The procedural report, what we were calling the procedural report. How and when we could use that, because most likely that will raise questions from capital.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Actually, that's a very good idea. I support the idea of Brazil as well. Maybe we can— is it available on the website for our consultations as well? So maybe all delegations can take a look at this procedural report suggested by you, Chair, and the Secretariat, as well as this paragraph, and we reconvene in half an hour or 1 hour. We are in your hands, Mr. Chair.

Yeah, I think it's a very good proposal from both of you. Thank you very much. So I think, actually, you're ready to share the structure to the attendants?

Good.

Starting from the document L42.

Yeah, I think I— please, can you give your information on the document number or something?

Please.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair, for giving me the floor. So what we can project right now is all the documents issued for the draft report of the Scientific and Technical Subcommittee, and what we could do is to go one by one and then indicate which paragraphs will be the part of the procedural report and which paragraphs are not part of the procedural report so we can go one by one so that it's clear to everybody for all the documents issued for the draft report. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

Okay, then the United States, please.

Thank you, Chair, and, and to both the Chair and Secretariat, we're in your hands.

We just think it might take a bit of time to go through each addendum and, and remove the paragraphs that wouldn't be in the procedural.

Would it be possible to perhaps just have that version presented that has, you know, the very basic attendance, et cetera, even if that takes a bit of time.

But certainly happy to go either way, just for the sake of expediency. Thank you.

Thank you, Chair. I also concur with what has been mentioned by the United States. Procedure report, or a very focused report, is attendance.

We did—

this was our agenda items. We discussed this, and these are the outcomes of whatever working groups that we have agreed. So, a very, very short report and then we can take it from there.

Thank you.

Right, sure. Iran, please.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Once again, we would like to appreciate your efforts and the Secretary-General's efforts in putting together the text that we have in front of us and the deliberations that we had in an informal setting. We wish to see that the format of the report, the procedural report that we are referring to, so for us we propose to have an independent text, not basically taking each part from the addendums that we have, but also in a united format, if we can have it by the Secretariat issued as an independent text so that we can have a thorough look at the text, which would be of course a short one as we understand, and that would be actually more acceptable to my delegation.

Thank you.

Thank you, sir. Any more suggestions? So I don't see any objection or more suggestion. You want to introduce something, please?

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I certainly recognize the wish of the many delegations that they would like to see the single one document with all the paragraphs that Part of the procedural report. Having said that, using the availability of the interpretation service right now, and in order to lose the time, because once we start, 3 hours is 3 hours, and we can't really shift. So what we can do is, if there is agreement in the room, we can quickly just go through all the documents and then cross out all the paragraphs. And then after that, during the break, we can try to produce one single document with all those paragraphs that have not been crossed out. So if that's agreeable to you all, while we have the precious interpretation services available for the next 2 and a half hours, we can do that. And then we can try to produce the one single document for which we do need some time. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

United Kingdom, please.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I do wonder, along the lines of the other speakers, if going through each of the reports and specifically taking out is going to be a bit tempting. I mean, it's like showing the meal but saying that you can't have the whole thing, so maybe we should just move on to actual meals and get some lunch and then come back with a procedural report and try to agree it. This would be my suggestion, but of course we're in your hands. Thank you.

I think I agree with the UK. Let me follow this direction, okay? This way that we can work on this, the report, okay? Yes. Okay. So, China, please.

Thank you, Chair. Just we ask for clarification since we already adopted the first part introduction of the report. I think that part will stand as part of the procedure report. We do not need to go back to rescreen those reports.

No.

Thank you.

Thank you. So we have a big— so we're going to have a break for 1 hour. Okay, not a break, we're breaking lunch and work, working lunch, okay, on that. Have a break for that. Okay, we convene, we come back again to the meeting at 2 PM. Okay? All right, thank you very much.

Thank you.

Good afternoon, distinguished delegates. I would like to— we'd like to resume to the 10,051st meeting of our subcommittee. I'd like to propose that we go back to the disclaimer first and then we then continue with the report, the— what do you call the— What's the name? Procedural report, okay? Would you mind to show it on the screen again, the statement that I draft this morning? Okay, Argentina, please.

Thank you, Chair.

This is just a question regarding accuracy.

Argentina believes that rather than a resolution giving the number 1348, we should do— also refer to 1462 because that refers to an ad hoc committee prior to the establishment of COPUS. COPUS was established a year after that resolution, and it was 1472 that established it. Thank you.

Noted with thanks. Anyone want to refine or revise anything?

Yes.

Anyone need more time?

Okay.

You know, just that you need more time, right?

Yeah.

While we are waiting, I just want to make announcement that, you know, we will have the break again at 3 PM, okay, due to some arrangement of the secretary with the translators.

Thank you.

United States, please.

Thank you, Chair, and much appreciation to our colleague from Argentina. We absolutely will take this back to consider, but as we said, we appreciate the direction that this is moving in, and much thanks for the consideration.

Thank you.

Thank you. Distinguished delegates, I'd like to propose While we're waiting for the confirmation, shall we start with the report, the procedural report? So first of all, I'd like to introduce the— to give information on that, please.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair, for giving me the floor. The consolidated version, one single document that has all the procedural parts of the various parts of the draft report is now available on the website. And I just want to just explain what's in there.

Yes, please.

The first part has already been adopted. It starts from the A/AC.105/C.1/L.425. That has the introduction part, attendance, as well as adoption of the agenda, election of the chair. And after that, in the middle of that document, there was also the section that was left blank for the general statements, and that content comes from L.42.1. Yes. 5/@.9. And in that section, what we have in the single document is that the list of the countries and organizations that spoke, the list of documents, the list of presentations, and also the list of side events. So that's in the middle of that Following that, we also have the remaining section of that document, L.425, list of the national reports, symposium, and end paragraph of the adoption of reports. So those paragraphs of the L.425 have already been adopted.

Thank you.

Yesterday.

Yesterday.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

Thank you. Thank the Secretariat. So you can go to the next one. So we start with the— Distinguished delegates, we have now have the, you know, the draft of report on the general statement on the agenda, that one. We start with the paragraph 1 here.

Yes, you can.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. While we are producing this single document, we also made technical amendments to the documents that had already been issued. So those technical amendments events are indicated in the track change. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

Egypt, please.

Thank you, Chair, and thank you for Argentina as well for the amendment, for the paragraph that was presented. I just want to make a general remark. Mark on the disclaimer that there is an inclination that we accept this paragraph as a compromise, and I remind myself and the whole room that many of the countries express views on concepts like developing countries or sustainable development or otherwise, and we think that mentioning the mandates as written in the United Nations General Assembly resolution is broad and neutral and factual, so we can consider going along with that. We prefer actually to finalize this paragraph before we go to the report, and we understand that we are still waiting for our distinguished colleague from the United States, but we are in your hands, Mr. Chair. We understand that we need to break again at 3. So I'm not quite sure if we can keep discussing the report without agreeing on this paragraph, because without this paragraph, I'm not quite sure what would be the way forward and what the report would look like. Having said so as well, a general remark on the very good effort done by the Secretariat to compile this document. Since we agreed that even national statements will not be available in the report, so I think even other documents or papers, we can just say all conference room papers presented is on the website. I mean, if the national statements of the member states are not summarized, so we don't need to go for any details in this report. and everything is available on the website, because it will be unfair that member states make statements and we refer to them on the website and then we refer to particular events or, or, or side events in the report that we're adopting. That's a very general remark, but we are in your hands, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

Thank you. I'd like to have a question to the colleagues from the United States. I'm not sure, like, you think you're gonna need a few more minutes or— No, no, no. I'd like to have a question to the distinguished delegate from the United States. I'm not sure if you may need a few more minutes or longer time than that.

Yes, I would like to say a few words.

Thank you, Chair. I think we will need a few more minutes. We're conferring back with our, with our mission and with capital. We very much appreciate the proposal that our colleague from Egypt made, and we do think it does make sense. We wish we had the full capacity to respond to it at this time. As soon as we have some information, we absolutely will share it with everybody here. Thank you so much.

Thank you, sir. I have a sign from China, please.

Thank you, Chair. First, many thanks for the Secretary to provide this procedure report in such short time. We do appreciate your efforts. I'll just echo what our esteemed colleagues of Egypt have said. We believe that the adoption of disclaimer is a precondition for we to proceed adopt the procedure report, and we appreciate Argentina colleagues for this new adding that is very much fill the gap between the ad hoc and the permanent committee. But to our understanding, the mandate of the committee is ongoing building process. In addition to these two resolutions, there are many other resolutions quite relevant. So if the new addings warrants our US colleagues further discussions or feedback from the Capitol, because what we were informed that after the lunch break we will get the final say from the US whether the original wording is accepted or not. If that will keep us waiting again for the final feedback from their Capitol, I think we can simply see deriving from the series of GE resolutions. I think that covers— we do not mention the original, the first one, as the second one, but a series of GE resolutions.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Hi, I see the distinguished delegate from Nigeria wants to give us a comment, please.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. We want to state that we are aligned with the position of Egypt, who currently holds the chair of the African Group. Thank you very much.

Noted. Thanks. The United Kingdom, please.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I understand that we're waiting on our colleagues from the US to go back to Capitol and come back with their— whether or not they can agree to this language, but it does seem to me that we do have time to start looking at the other bits of the report. Maybe we can do that with a commitment to go back should we not agree this paragraph, but I think we're just sitting here and waiting may not be the best use of time. But I say this only because tomorrow is Valentine's Day.

Yes.

And I have to go home and meet my wife at some point, so it would be good if we could try to move the process forward a little bit, but of course we're in your hands. Thank you.

Hi, Egypt. You smile with your sign. Do you want to meet your wife too or not?

I will wish Happy Valentine's to all, but I would suggest actually— I concur with the fact that we have time. Maybe we can discuss what is the way forward. I know that this is a formal setting. We were sitting in informal consultations before, I mean. We can keep discussing what is the way forward, what will happen in the legal subcommittee and in the committee, and the way forward if there is any views on how to proceed on this and the work of the subcommittee. Let's talk about alternatives on having a report or not having a report and how the work of the committee and subcommittee will carry on while we are waiting. I'm happy to engage in these discussions now as well. And we are again in your hands, Mr. Chair, whether you want to decide in any direction. And happy Valentine's.

Thank you for your recommendation. In fact, you know, Secretary just reminded me that, you know, for the valuable comments from China that add one thing that on the series of relevant General Assembly resolutions, it adds to the So disclaimer. So everything aware on that, right? And please also consider this adding the statement as well. Yeah. The United States, please.

Yes, thank you. I appreciate that folks are trying to refine it in some ways that maybe might be helpful to them, but I think that This term especially is a bit vague. The series, we're not sure what that means, which series. I think that in its current form, it does look very good. We would like to be able to confer with our capital on a static piece of text rather than having to propose multiple changes to Washington. So right now, in its current form, with the references to 1348 and 1472, we think, is a really, really good place that we've arrived at, and we appreciate all of the effort by all the member states who have contributed to getting us to this place. Again, I think editing it is only going to make it impossible for us to communicate with our capital in an effective manner for the purposes of the proceedings here. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Well, I don't think it's going to take that— Russian Federation, please. And Brazil next, right?

Did you say Brazil?

No, no, no. Thank you. Oh, you want to take pictures, right? I'm sorry. Is that my pictures or— no, not my pictures. Russian, please.

Thank you very much, Chairman, for giving my delegation the floor. Allow us to recall to everyone that we are working based on the rule that nothing is agreed until it's all agreed. Based on that rule, we think that we could probably be more productively using our time by beginning consideration of the procedural report with the understanding that if the disclaimer will not be agreed, then this procedural report wouldn't be either. And furthermore, we'd like to understand where the disclaimer would go in the report, because in the first addendum, which we've already adopted, the last para basically says that the subcommittee adopted its But now we have a rather unusual report, so I suppose that sentence might need to be modified too. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. I saw the sign from the United States.

Yes, thank you very much, Chair, and thank you to everyone in this room for your hard work in reaching this paragraph. We have just received the official guidance from Washington and they do accept this as it is written. Thank you.

Thank you very much. China, please.

Thank you, Chair. I just echo what has been said by Russian colleagues on those G sections we already adopted. We want to put that section to the very end of this procedural report. And for the time being, we have put that part in brackets, but also that is the place we want to refer to the disclaimer. So you need to put a footnote to that section we already adopted, and then this disclaimer will at least reflect in the footnote. Or I think either you put it in the very beginning of the text, but we want to put that adoption of the report to the very end of this procedure report, so we put that in brackets.

Thank you. Let me— I get the recommendation from China and also from the Russian, so we— I think we agree on that, the 2 on Section G, right?

Yes.

Okay. So let me confirm again. I just get the sign from the response from US you get this disclaimer acceptable from your side, right? Correct?

Yes, Chair. Thank you so much for checking in with us again. I wasn't sure if I fully understood what our colleague from China was proposing regarding footnotes, but this as it stands is okay for us. So apologies if the misunderstanding is on my side.

China, please.

There's no misunderstanding from our side. It's just a question to the Chair. Where you want to place disclaimer, there are 2 options. One is at the very beginning of this procedural report as a note. Another way, which is not— we propose that because I think Section G should appear at the very end of this report. That is also a place you can reflect the disclaimer as a part of this report.

Thank you. Thank you for the question. I think the Secretariat can give you a confirmation, would be better.

Well, thank you very much, Mr. Chair. At the very end of the L425, there is a Section G that says adoption of the report of the Scientific and Technical Subcommittee. And currently the text says, after consideration of items before it, subcommittee at such and such meeting on February 13th, I hope, adopted its report to the Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space containing its views and recommendations set out in the paragraphs below, and that last sentence would need to be deleted. But before that paragraph, we could have this disclaimer text so that it's clear that it relates to the entire report of the subcommittee. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

Thank you. So this is— disclaimer is agreeable for all, for the ECSC. Then let me go to the report. to the procedural report. Thank you very much, everyone, for your hard work for our morning.

30 minutes.

Yes, okay, please. We start with the document. Egypt, please.

Thank you, Chair. We will go along with your suggestion to start the procedural report. if you decided so, also to be constructive and to go ahead, and hopefully we will conclude this with a disclaimer. With this, I think we suggest that we add this disclaimer before the introduction, immediately after draft report, procedure version, and then we put a placement at the beginning. We can even copy-paste now the disclaimer pending the conclusion of our discussions so we have clarity on where this will stand exactly. Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

Well, okay, thank you for your recommendation. I want to get agreement from The room, is it okay to put it here? All right, I see no objection. We can put it here. Thank you. So, again, let's go to the disclaimers. Is there any objection on this? I see none. Thank you.

Approved.

Then next, the Secretary-General, you can start.

Well, thank you very much, Mr. Chair. The next part is actually what I had said earlier. This is only the part that was already adopted. I recognize the—

Brazil, please.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to address before in the title, if you go scroll down a little bit— sorry, up, up, yeah— there's a mention to procedural version. I suppose it's not staying, is that correct? I said it was just to identify. Perfect. Just to clarify that. Thank you.

Thank you, sir. No, I don't have it. Thank you. Go ahead.

Thank you very much, Mr.

Chair.

If I may, just to repeat that the L.425 has already been adopted and all the sections that you see right now on the screen have already been adopted. Moving on all the way to the section on general statements. The text comes from Add 9, L.425/Add 9, and it's the list of countries and organizations that spoke with the technical amendments. Moving further down to the list of documents, and I understood from the distinguished delegate of Egypt that that neither the list of documents nor list of technical presentation nor list of side events should be in this report. That's what I understood. And Mr. Chair, I mean, I would like to see whether that's the agreement of the subcommittee. Thank you very much, Mr.

Chair.

So from the statement of the Secretary, you get the recommendation to add the detail in here. Is it then okay? All right, I know I see no objection to approve on that, yes. China, please.

Thank you. Although we are playing your hand and we appreciate that Egypt asked for— to show the preference the member states' statement, but it seems to me that we have to make a choice whether we want to keep the content of the report as much as possible. If I read all those technical presentations, most of them are made by member states. So if we cut all those documents and even side events out, we lost all those relevant information there. So it's very hard at this stage to carry out a selective procedure whether those— some technical presentation will be kept in, others because they are not made by member states, we cut them out. So are we inclined to have all those technical presentations included? Yes, I think we should have all those technical the factual information, both the technical presentation and side event included in the procedure report. So that, for me, that is only a proceeding of those events. This is not about we endorse those technical presentation or side event. But I'm eager to hear other members' comments. ideas on this issue because I do not think that will create any political issues, but try to keep all those relevant and useful information there. In particular, they have all the references of those CRP documents. I think that is quite good reference documents for the future work. Thank you, Chair.

Canada, please.

Yeah, thank you, Chair.

Uh, yeah, just to concur exactly with what our Chinese colleagues just said, looking back to the LSC report from 2024, um, we sort of, I think, have to pick a path here whether we include the full list of speakers under each agenda item, CRPs under each agenda item, technical presentations and side events, or not. I don't think we can be sort of picking and choosing. So to remove the technical presentations and CRPs but not who spoke under each agenda item, I think that's a bit inconsistent. So I think we have to decide on one approach, either nothing or all of those factual details. Thank you, Chair.

And following what has been just mentioned by our distinguished colleague from Canada, we're flexible as well. We can remove everything. My point is These side events and CRPs are titled on specific topics. So if the member states' topics and priorities and policies has not been presented, so we have to also be in one line by not mentioning these particular topics. Otherwise, each member state next time will come with a CRP, so we can have the name of the country in the CRP and not knowing what will happen in the next legal subcommittee. So I think since all member states who ever express their views under an agenda item, we can mention the countries who spoke. And then when it comes to the CRPs and side events, we will mention that the number— there were these CRPs presented by these countries, even if the countries want to mention the names, if it's countries or institutions or non-governmental organizations, and they are available on the website. We don't need to list the whole name. Thank you.

Thank you. I got— UK, please.

Thank you very much, Mr.

Chair.

Just to come in in agreement with China, distinguished delegate from China, and the distinguished delegate from Canada, I don't think we're in the business here of rewriting what is a procedural report. We already have a kind of template for what that looks like. Let's just follow that template. And then we can maybe make this quite quick because we've got 25 pages of a report. It's still quite a substantial document that we have to go through. And but if we're going to argue what is a procedural report and what's contained within that, I think that's going to be a very long discussion. So we already know what a procedural report looks like. We agree that with Canada and China that it looks like this. Maybe we could, uh, kind of move on from those general discussions and just look at the text and see if it's agreeable to us or not. Thank you.

Japan.

Thank you, Chair. We would like to echo the statement by China, Canada, and UK. Many member states contributed CRPs and side events and also the technical presentations, so we would like to keep this mentioning about those things.

Thank you.

Thank you. So I'd like to invite the delegate to monitor.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Having heard all the comments from the delegations on the way to proceed for the approach to be taken with the procedural report. What we could propose is that we keep the paragraph that lists the speakers, like statements made under each agenda items. As for the other things, basically the list of the conference room papers, documents considered, and the list of technical presentations, we make a reference to the fact that the list of conference room papers and the list of technical The presentation delivered during the session is available from the website on the Office for Outer Space Affairs during the session. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

Thank you. Let's— I think we're gonna move on like this, okay? So, uh, we continue to consider the, the report. Thank you very much, Mr.

Chair. I think just having listened to what the Secretariat said, you're going to replace that section with a link to the website, but I think what the majority in the room said was that we would like to keep it. As it is. Um, so for us, it would be better to just follow the normal procedure of a procedural report and list the presentations factually, who delivered them, so that we may in the future have a look at that report and see what was actually happened at the meeting. If we move away from that, then we're starting to go to a very, very thin report, which I don't think fulfills the criteria of being procedural. So we would like to retain those presentations, the listing, and I think we heard that 2 other delegations have the same position and only one against. Thank you.

China, please.

Thank you, Chair.

If I can propose a compromise solution, maybe Secretary can cut those lists of the technical presentation under each agenda, as well as CRP documents, side events, and put all those content in annex. So there will be the last annex, and in the procedure report you have a paragraph to indicate it. The subcommittee also have before it.

Thank you.

the following CRPs and made several technical presentations, held side events, which contained in the Annex, I don't know, 9 or 8. So we keep all those information there, but we do not compromise the main text of this procedure report. Thank you.

UK, Matthew Tu. Thank you very much.

That works for us. I think that's a good solution, and let us thank once again the distinguished delegate from China.

Yes, back to you.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I agree with the view that we should preserve in this report the mention to the work we have done. If any country had the work to prepare a CRP or make a technical presentation, why not? So why would we here be willing to have less content in our procedural report and not more? I think it's only fair enough that those countries who did some technical presentations of CRPs have them mentioned. If more countries decide to do CRPs, great, good for work. So I therefore would support keeping the procedural report just as presented originally. Thank you.

The Secretariat team already changed and revised the text here. Is it acceptable to you all? On the 24th. Okay, I see no objection. We'll continue. Secretary Yeo.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair, for the general statements. We are just fixing right now, going to the agreement that has been reached, or the approach to the procedural note and procedural report. So we are going to delete all these things, but they will just put together a list of like the side events and the technical presentations as an annex to the report. And then we'll just keep this paragraph with the statements made. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

All right, so go to the next one.

And continuing on to the remaining part of the L.425, which has already been adopted, that's the remaining part that continues after the general statements. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

Matthew, please.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm not sure I was clear enough in my previous intervention. I argued that we should keep the mentions to the CRPs and technical presentations. Again, I understand it's a positive thing if countries come and present— contribute to CRPs and technical presentations. And that's part of the substance we may have in our report. It's not clear for me why we would not have them. I think we should not delete them.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Just to clarify, it's not deletion, it's putting the list as annex. annexed to the procedural report. So it will be all there, but it's not right in the middle of the report, but it's now annexed to the report.

That's organization of the document. Alright.

Thank you.

UK, please.

Thank you very much, Mr.

Chair.

I think we support the position of Brazil, and in fact we heard that several delegations did support the same position, which is our work here is to exchange information, to hear about these topics, to invest in this forum, so it does make sense to me to keep them listed within the report. We understand that there's a compromise to move to an annex, but maybe we could ask through you, Mr. Chair, to the delegation of Egypt to reconsider if we cannot keep this valuable work within the main body of the report. I think there's widespread support for that, but of course, If they can't agree, then we can try another solution, but it would be good to keep the language in the report as has just been expressed by our distinguished colleague from Brazil.

Egypt. Thanks for the suggestion from UK. In fact, we keep all the— we keep the document, we keep the TRP things, We just organize it in the— at the end next. So while we're waiting for confirmation on this. We just— we can come back anytime on this. Yes, okay. Tibi is talking right now.

Thank you, Chair. After South-South consultations, we are happy to listen to the room and yes, please keep the list. Thank you.

Very nice of you. Thank you very much.

In the report.

In the next, yeah. In the next.

Yeah, no, no, keep it please in the report if this is the whole room. I'm just— my argument was from our point of view, if we are not reflecting on the member states' positions, then we don't have to reflect on titles of particular presentations. But if the whole room wants it, then please. Please keep it in the report. We don't have to annex it. Thank you.

Yes, thank you very much for clarification. The Secretary, can you restate again what you're going to do?

Yes, thank you very much. Just for the clarity, so we will keep the list of the technical presentations and the documents produced and the side events in the report itself, not to be annexed. Okay, thank you very much. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

Okay, we move on then. Thank you.

Okay, continue. Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Just to continue on to the, um, the remaining part of the L425, it's already adopted. And moving on to Add 1. Yeah, okay, just a small clarification for the adoption of the report of the Scientific and Technical Subcommittee. There's an amendment made to be deleted right there. And moving on to Add 1, the structure of each agenda item is as follows. There is one paragraph that gives the for the subcommittee to consider that agenda item, followed by the paragraph that lists all the statements made, followed by the technical presentations made. And in the case of this agenda item, Space for Sustainable Development, item 5, that agenda item was also allocated to the working group of the whole to consider.

Thank you.

together with items like 12 and 17. Therefore, there is one paragraph that recognized the fact that the Working Group of the Whole was reconvened, and also the subcommittee also endorsed the report of the Working Group of the Whole to be factual. And also, it reflects the fact that the report of the Working Group of the Whole was already adopted as amended and also endorsed by the subcommittee.

Yes.

So that's the— Addendum 1. If I may continue quickly.

Yes, please do.

Addendum 2 includes the section on space debris, the same approach, mandate, the list of the statements made, the documents produced, and before the subcommittee, as well as the technical presentations. And that's the end of that section. Next section is the Space System-Based Disaster Management Support mandate for consideration, the list of the statements made, and just one paragraph on the document that was produced, and the list of the technical presentations made under that particular agenda item, space debris. Next paragraph is Addendum 4 on the GNSS, the Global Navigation Satellite System. mandate, the list of statements made, and the documents that were before the subcommittee, and also the list of the technical presentations. Next section is Space Weather, the mandate, the list of statements made, the documents that were before the subcommittee, and the list of presentations made under that agenda item. Similarly, the section on near-Earth objects, the mandate given to the subcommittee to consider that agenda item, the list of statements made, and also the list of the presentations made under that agenda item. The next section is long-term sustainability of outer space activities mandate, the list of statements made, the list of documents that were before the subcommittee, Committee, as well as the list of technical presentations made.

Mm-hmm.

And there are additional paragraphs to reflect the fact that the Working Group on the Long-Term Sustainability of Outer Space Activities were reconvened, and also, um, that its expert group on the Space Situational Awareness also convened, and, uh, the chairs, as indicated in this paragraph. And also to reflect the fact that the report of the Working Group on the Long-Term Sustainability of Outer Space Activities was adopted as amended by the Working Group and also endorsed by the subcommittee. The next section is future role and method of work of the committee. And once again, what mandate given to the the subcommittee to consider this agenda item and also the list of statements made, the documents that were before the subcommittee, and also the fact that the report of the action team on lunar activities consultations was made. And within the action team, the language that should be in the report of itself was reviewed and agreed by consensus. And that part, because it was not really presented as such to the plenary, but it was agreed within the action team, so it's going to be produced— it's going to be annexed to the report as one of the annexes. The next section— Chair, I think we can distinguish delegates with the India request for the floor.

Yes, India, please. Thank you, Chair.

Do we again going to see the annexure in this regard for ATLAS or this as mentioned in the report?

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. At the end of the list of the annexes, we produced that report. It was available as the document L.425/AD16. So that will be attached as one of the annexes. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

Yes, yes. Yeah, you can do it. Yeah.

Thank you, Chair.

We saw the annexure attached to it. The last paragraph If you have, if you go to the last paragraph of the report, of Atleq report, last paragraph. Here, the last line after, in the last line, and would report on the progress of its work at the legal subcommittee and committee at their sessions to be held in 2026. That is what it seems that that was agreed in the meeting, and we want that to be changed here. Last line after—

I will just read it.

This action team noted that it would hold meetings both on the margins of the sessions of the Legal Subcommittee and Committee and during the intersessional period in 2026 in order to advance its work in accordance with the work plan and report on the progress of its work at the Legal Subcommittee and Committee at their sessions to be held in 2026. Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Chair. Other comments is on the part of this procedure report, not on the action team's report. My suggestion is on, I think, paragraph 3 of the procedure report. Maybe you can go back to the procedure report on the future rules of the committee. So, since we have this action team's report, so the action team report should be reflected in the subcommittee had before it the following documents. So the action team report will be listed there. Then you can refer in the annex. Otherwise, we don't know where to find the report. But thank you.

Thank you.

Like this.

Thank you.

So everyone okay with this proposal, right? All right, we continue then.

Well, thank you very much, Mr. Chair. The next section is item 13 of the agenda item of the subcommittee. The next section is space and global health. So there's a mandate, the paragraph that lists all the statements, the list of documents before the subcommittee, and also the list of technical presentations. The next section is the use of nuclear power sources in outer space mandates the statements and documents before the subcommittee, and importantly, this paragraph that recognizes the fact that the Working Group on the Use of Nuclear Power Sources in Outer Space was reconvened and its report was adopted by the working group and endorsed by the subcommittees to reflect that.

Yes.

fact. The next section is on the examination of the geostationary orbit, the mandate, the list of the statements made, and also one paper and document that was before the subcommittee. And that kind of—

Can I have a gentleman, please?

Thank you. I just wanted to say that in 113, Dark and Quiet Skies. Argentina made a statement and we're not included in the list yet in that 113.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Sorry about that.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

We have only 2 minutes to go before 3 o'clock when we have to really break. Um, the Dark and Quiet slides with the mandate and also the list of the statements as amended and the list of the documents that were before the subcommittee and the list of the technical presentations. And finally, the draft provisional agenda to reflect the fact that there is a mandate and—

Yes, I get New Zealand, please.

Thank you, Chair. Given the current liquidity crisis and the ongoing intercessional discussions, the dates for the 64th session haven't been confirmed yet, and so we propose deleting the sentence as it's worded in paragraph 2.

Thank you.

We will— thank you. Let's continue.

Thank you so much, Mr.

Chair.

I actually agree with what has been mentioned by our distinguished caller from New Zealand, but however, we can keep it tentatively. We can just keep that we have scheduled this tentatively because otherwise— I mean, in any case, we will take a decision, but just make it tentatively and then, of course, we will revisit it based on the discussions that we have and hopefully the liquidity crisis, how it will be by next year. So just keep it tentatively now and then this will not preempt our discussions going forward. Thank you.

Yes, thank you.

Thank you very much. I recognize the request for floor from New Zealand and the United States as well. I wonder if I could propose the language here to reflect the fact that the subcommittee was informed by the Secretariat that they— was informed that the Secretariat had intended to reschedule its 64th session to be held from 8th to 19th February 2027. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

Is it acceptable? Okay. New Zealand and US.

We would prefer that the— given that it's a procedural report, that the sentence doesn't need to be in there, but I acknowledge the efforts of my distinguished colleague from Egypt to try and get a compromise. We will think about it, consider some text, but again, our request to delete remains. And also, thank you to the Secretariat for trying to find a compromise as well.

Continue.

4:30.

Yeah, I was informed from the secretary that it's 3 PM now. We have to close— suspend, in fact, suspend for 1 hour, right? 1 hour, 1.5 hours. We come back at 4:30 and we will finish as soon as possible, I promise. Thank you.