(7th meeting) 59th session of the Commission on Population and Development, CPD59

The seventh meeting of the 59th session of the Commission on Population and Development is called to order. Excellencies, representatives, one and all, I invite the Commission to continue its general discussion under agenda item 3, entitled "General debate" and its sub-items A and B. Before giving the floor to the first speaker, I wish to remind delegations that they must kindly respect the agreed time limit, namely five minutes for Member States speaking in their national capacity, four minutes for intergovernmental organizations and UN system organizations, and three minutes for non-governmental organizations enjoying consultative status with the Economic and Social Council. The microphone will be automatically cut off when the allotted speaking time has elapsed. Please also note that the light on the microphone will start to blink one minute before the time limit is up. I thank you in advance for your understanding and cooperation. I kindly request that statements be expressed at a normal speed. so that interpreters can do their job to the best of their abilities. Longer versions of statements may be sent for posting in the UN journal to e-statements@un.org. I now give the floor to the distinguished representative of Agora Ciudadanos Cambiando Mexico.

And distinguished delegates. My name is Ellen Crida-Dell, and I'm the UN representative of Agora. I've also served on the program committee for the United Nations World Data Forum, and I'm a senior product design lead leveraging artificial intelligence to help over 14,000 global tech companies and 75% of Fortune 500 comply to our ever-evolving complex data governance laws and ethical frameworks. All of us have come here today to talk about innovating, uniting, and transforming in the context of population and Yet there is a big sobering reality we have to face, which is, according to UN stats, one in three children globally are already datafied before they even reach school age, often without any legal protection or meaningful consent. So let's think about what that actually looks like. There is a newborn whose very first health records are uploaded to a cloud that they will never own. There is a toddler whose digital footprint is being sold to advertisers before they can even speak their first word. And there is a child in a vulnerable community whose biometric data is harvested in exchange for a bag of rice or grains during food insecurity, creating a permanent digital record that could follow them and potentially bias and limit them in their educational career prospects for the rest of their lives without them ever having a say in the matter. And so as the United Nations Commission on Population and Development, we have the opportunity to bridge that massive gap between the billions of dollars being mobilized for technology and the actual lived experiences of youth, even at the extreme edges of the map. For example, oftentimes we see high-level summits announcing billion-dollar smart city initiatives, but in rural villages, that translates to a young girl who still has to walk four hours in the heat just to find a clinic with a dry well because the digital monitoring system failed her, or that brilliant young student who is told that he is digitally connected to the world because there is a cell tower nearby, yet he cannot afford the cost of the data needed to download a single textbook or access the AI tools we are discussing today. So to bridge this gap, I would like to propose four practical pillars that can move us from high-level talk to real-world equity. First, we must democratize artificial intelligence through decentralized edge AI. What that means is instead of expensive servers, we can shard complex models across network of low-cost mobile devices already found in rural communities. This turns low-spec hardware into a collective engine where research and AI can enable a wider support of social services such as automating cross-border regulatory thereby speeding up the delivery of life-saving aid. Second, we must end black box governance and resource allocation. When automated algorithms decide who in which zip codes qualifies for development loans or which clinics serving which populations receive supplies, the logic is often hidden. We need mandated algorithm audits and youth-led oversight boards using geospatial analytics to visualize bias. This allows youth to identify and correct unfair distribution in real time, ensuring resources are allocated based on actual community needs rather than flawed data points. And lastly, third, we must replace any surveillance traps with zero knowledge proofs. Youth shouldn't have to surrender their entire digital dignity just to access a scholarship or food aid. This technology allows for binary yes, no verification without revealing sensitive data such as race, ethnicity, home address, etc., effectively returning dignity and self-determination to the individual. We must also protect youth led innovation through IP frameworks so that young innovators can license their localized data sets and.

I thank the representative of Agora Ciudadanos Cambiando Mexico, and I now give the floor to the representative of Human Life International.

Ms. Chairman, distinguished delegates, Human Life International thanks the Commission for the opportunity to address the 59th session of the Commission on Population and Development. theme, population, technology, and research in the context of sustainable development challenges us to ensure that innovation truly serves the human person and not the other way around. The inherent dignity of every human being from the moment of conception must remain the foundation of all population policies. Protecting the unborn life, including children with disabilities and regardless of sex, is not optional. It is a fundamental human rights imperative and essential for true sustainable development. As clearly stated in the consensus of the International Conference on Population and Development, abortion should never be promoted as a method of family planning. Governments have the responsibility to support women so that abortion can be avoided. Second, we strongly recommend including a robust paragraph on national sovereignty in the final outcome document. Every state has the sovereign right to legislate on sensitive matters, life, family, and reproductive health, according to its own cultural religion and national values free from external pressure or ideological imposition we therefore call for the term Sr. HR to be either deleted or strictly defined in accordance with the ICPD program of action in the Beijing declaration explicitly excluding any interpretation that includes abortion only in this way can we avoid division and truly respect the sovereignty of nations additionally we urge that any reference to sexual violence explicitly include *********** as it constitutes a serious form of discrimination and violence against women and children. Finally, technology and research must be directed towards strengthening the family, the most basic and resilient unit of society. Digital platforms and prenatal tools should support mothers and fathers, promote natural methods of family planning, and foster healthy relationships between men and women. Mr. Chairman, only when we place the human person, human life, and the family at the center will technology truly serve genuine sustainable development. Thank you.

I wish to thank the representative of Human Life International. I now give the floor to the representative of Plan International.

Chair, Excellencies, Distinguished Delegates, My name is Theresa, a youth leader from Occidental Mindoro, Philippines, and I am honored to deliver this speech on behalf of Plan International, an organization advancing children's rights and gender equality across more than 80 countries. Sexual and reproductive health and rights are fundamental to dignity and equality. My own access to digital SRHR information and supportive family dialogue empowered me to make informed decisions about my future. Now, I use technology as a platform to scale this life-saving knowledge to more young people globally. However, in communities like mine in Occidental Mindoro, access to technology is a luxury, not a right. Frequent power outages, poor connectivity, and geographical isolation widen the gender digital divide, cutting girls off from essential sexual and reproductive health services. These systemic gaps are worsened by the climate crisis. With over 20 typhoons a year causing frequent displacement, health services are often shattered. This led to access to maternal care, menstrual health support, and safe spaces being stripped away. In addition, the digital space often compromises the safety of young people through gender-based violence, harassment, and misinformation. These online chats exacerbate severe community issues, including online sexual abuse and exploitation of children, and the persistence of child early and forced marriages and unions. this crisis is starkly illustrated in the Philippines, where a child as young as nine years old has become pregnant. We cannot afford inaction. We call on member states to ensure digital systems are safe, inclusive, and rights-based. This requires holding platforms accountable through survival-centered approaches and robust regulations. We urge governments to invest in comprehensive sexuality education that integrates digital literacy, equipping young people with the to navigate the online world safely. Most importantly, young people must be meaningfully engaged, not just only as beneficiaries, but as leaders shaping our digital future. A just and inclusive digital world is within our reach, but only if we act with urgency and intention. Remember, every girl, everywhere, deserves the right to make free and informed decisions about her body, her health, and her future. Thank you.

I thank the representative of Plan International, and I now give the floor to the representative of Fundacion para el Estudio e Investigacion de la Mujer. Distinguished.

Chair, Excellencies and colleagues, Betty Levy speaking on behalf of Fundacion para el Estudio e Investigacion de la Mujer Argentina. to reaffirm that reducing maternal mortality and preventable infant deaths remains central to achieving the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development and the commitments of the International Conference on Population and Development. Despite progress in Latin America, preventable maternal deaths persist, particularly among women facing poverty, rural isolation, and structural inequalities. Infant mortality continues to disparities in access to timely, quality health care. These opportunities are not inevitable. They are a result from gaps in political will, investment, and equitable systems. Recent policy shifts in Argentina, including fiscal austerity measures and price deregulation, have had a significant impact on the healthcare system. Maternal mortality rose from 3.19 in 2023 to 4.43 in 2024, and infant mortality increased from 8.0 to 8.5. At a time when infant mortality is declining globally, these These trends suggest that prenatal care and safe delivery services are not being adequately insured, with serious consequences for women and children. Technology presents both opportunities and risks. Digital health tools, telemedicine, and data systems can expand access to prenatal and postnatal care, particularly in underserved areas, strengthening early detection and continuity of care. However, unequal access, weak regulation, and limited digital literacy can deepen exclusion. Moreover, data misuse, algorithm bias, and lack of gender-sensitive design may reinforce discrimination in healthcare delivery. Technology must therefore be rights-based, inclusive, and aligned with public health objectives. We call on Member States to invest in equitable health systems that guarantee universal access to quality services, ensure that digital health innovations are accessible, safe, and grounded in human rights and gender equality, and close the digital divide with safeguarding privacy and accountability. Achieving sustainable development requires placing women, adolescents, and children at the center of health systems, ensuring that no one is left behind. While Rev 2 is far from what we would have liked to have seen, nor is it anywhere near strong enough on SRH and RR, but in this geopolitical environment, it was a balanced text. We are disheartened that silence was broken on so many powers, and we urge the chair and the commission members to adopt Rev 2 as drafted. Anything less is regressive and going backwards. Thank you for this opportunity.

I thank the representative of Fundacion para el Estudio e Investigacion de la Mujer, and I now give the floor to the representative of Population Connection.

Thank you so much, Chair. I am speaking on behalf of Population Connection and the Population Institute. US best organizations working to advance reproductive health and rights, empower women and girls, and promote sustainable development. Population and public health estimates and projections are key to shaping important policy decisions, yet they are only as reliable as the data used in their modeling. These data, whether from censuses or other national surveys, are only useful if they're accurate. There is a widely acknowledged need to improve the collection, analysis, and dissemination of demographic and health data. Unfortunately, at a time when we should be looking to improve data quality, the United States has eliminated a major source of demographic and health data for countries around the world, the Demographic and Health Surveys. The DHS program has conducted more than 300 surveys in over 90 countries all over the past four decades. It is alarming that these major research publications have been halted along with so many crucial programs that ended when USAID was destroyed last year. Meanwhile, efforts to address the unmet need for family planning in low and middle income countries have stagnated, and estimated 214 women in these countries currently want to avoid pregnancy, but are not using modern contraceptives, which are perhaps the most consequential technological innovation of the 20th century. This unmet need is partially due to physical and financial barriers, but the most frequently cited reasons for contraceptive non-use are fear of side effects underestimation of the risk of conception, and social cultural opposition. Regarding side effects, even though many of these fears are due to myth and misconceptions, some are driven by a gap in the method mix for women who don't tolerate existing methods well. These women deserve new contraceptive options, which require research and development, a consistently underfunded area. Men are also in desperate need of contraceptive methods beyond permanent sterilization and condoms. Without short-term or long-acting reversible contraceptive options, men are at a disadvantage in their own efforts to prevent unintended pregnancy. They are also unable to participate equally with their female partners in their joint efforts to prevent unintended pregnancy. Dwindling donor country support for family planning research and programs, including from the United States and some European nations, is a failure of governments to comprehend the vital role of reproductive health and rights in the achievement of the Sustainable Development Goals. Funding cuts also indicate insufficient commitment to respecting and championing human rights. Population Connection and the Population Institute call on policymakers to invest in demographic data, health data, as well as family planning research, development, and dissemination to help improve sustainable development outcomes. Thank you so much.

I thank the representative of Population Connection. I now give the floor to the representative of Asociacion Nacional Civica Femenina.

Madam Chair, distinguished delegates, technology and innovation must serve human beings. They must serve life. They should not serve the purpose of eliminating people or life. They should serve the family, not the dissolution thereof. And they should serve freedom, not the eradication of freedom. What's at stake within this commission is not simply a technical discussion on population, technology or development. It is rather a substantive issue on the table. That is the meaning of human dignity, human rights and freedom. We are bearing witness to an increasing attempt to introduced through ambiguous language and reinterpretations, concepts which have never been agreed upon by member states. We talk about supposed new rights to further agendas that have no grounding in international law, including attempts to present abortion as an international human right. It is not. At the same time, it is a source of deep concern to note that the family is absent from the draft of the resolution, in spite of the clear recognition in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of the fact that the family is the natural and fundamental component of our societies. Equally concerning is the growing trend towards restricting fundamental freedoms through concepts that are ambiguous in nature and undefined, such as hate speech, disinformation or misinformation. Let us be clear, to defend the dignity of all human life is not hate speech. To affirm the role of the family is not hate speech. To exercise the freedom of conscience and religion is not hate speech. What is at risk is something much more serious: the use of these concepts to silence legitimate stances and points of view, and to exclude those who don't align with specific ideological positions. Human rights cannot be redefined using ambiguous language, neither can they be imposed using tools of coercion. They must be grounded in consensus, the respect for the sovereignty of states and the diversity of cultural and legal traditions. Madam Chair, if we allow human rights language to be used as a tool with which to impose ideological diktats, we run the risk of weakening the very foundations of the multilateral system. Consequently, hear appeal for full respect of internationally agreed upon language. We must fully guarantee fundamental freedoms, recognize the central role of the family, and respect national sovereignty in the implementation of policies. Thank you.

I thank the representative of Asociacion Nacional Civica Femenina, and I give the floor to the representative of International Pharmaceutical Students' Federation.

Honorable Chair, distinguished delegates and colleagues, my name is Manchari Sangmuang Sakkulavol, carrying honor, speaking on behalf of the International Pharmaceutical Students Federation, IPSF, serving president, living young mother, representing more than 600,000 pharmacy students and recent graduates worldwide, speaking here today possible because sexual reproductive health rights existed within reach. Yet, colored others remain distant, unreachable. For IPSF, SRHR forms foundation, well-being, dignity, equality, sustainable development. Population, technology, and research are inseparable from SRHR. SDG target 3.7 calls for universal access to sexual and reproductive healthcare services, including family planning, information, and education. Major gaps remained. The WHO reports that in 2023, around 260,000 women died during and following pregnancy and childbirth, and 92% of these deaths occur in low and lower middle income countries. That is not only a health gap, it is a justice gap. As a youth organization, we are proud to bring our perspective to this discussion. In 2025, our federation carried out more than 100 global and regional projects and over 1,300 local activities led by member organizations worldwide. These youth-led, community-based initiatives show how local action can translate evidence into practice and strengthening trust in health systems. As digital native generation, we believe technology can help close these gaps, but only if it is designed for real world access and accountability. Digital tools can expand SRHR information, support maternal and newborn health, and improve service continuity, but they cannot replace electricity, connectivity, privacy, literacy, or trained health workers. We must not allow a two-tier future in which some communities benefit from advanced technologies, while others still struggle to access basic care. As future health professionals, we would like to highlight the role of pharmacists and pharmacy students as trusted community partners. With proper training and safeguards, we can support contraceptive access, SRHR counseling, medication continuity, and the fight against misinformation. And if you look at the young people in this room today, remember this. One day, it will be us sitting where you are, representing our countries, our people, shaping the decisions that affect the next generation to come. So I urge you not only to include youth in this conversation, but to present us, prepare us, and make space for us in the future we are co-creating with you. Thank you.

I thank the representative

of International Pharmaceutical Students' Federation, and I now give the floor to the representative of the World of Life Christian Fellowship.

Distinguished Chair, Excellencies, and esteemed delegates, I have the honor to address the Commission on behalf of civil society and World of Life Christian Fellowship. We must command the comprehensive nature of this resolution, which reaffirms global commitments from the International Conference on Population and Development to 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. These frameworks remain critical anchors in guiding our collective action. From my understanding of the United States perspective, there is a strong emphasis on invocation, technological advancement, data systems, and protection of individual rights as drivers of sustainable development. These priorities are significant and contribute meaningful to the global process. However, as civil society, we must emphasize that global advocacy must remain at the counter and at the center our efforts no matter where we are and who we represent. Our role is to ensure that policies are not only advanced, but experienced equitably across all populations. Technology and research are powerful tools, yet as acknowledged in this resolution, they also carry risk. Artificial intelligence and digital systems, if not governed carefully, can deepen inequalities, reinforce systematic discrimination and widen the divide between and within nations. This is especially critical for women, girls, youth, persons with disabilities, indigenous communities, and those in vulnerable situations. We therefore call for strengthened commitment to equitable digital inclusion Ensuring access is not only available, but affordable, safe, and accompanied by digital literacy and skills development. Data must be disaggregated and human-centered, translating into policies that reach those often left behind while safeguarding privacy and dignity. We further stress the urgency of investing in public health systems, particularly maternal, newborn, and mental health services. Preventable deaths a global concern and technology must be leveraged to expand access while preserving the human element of care. Youth must be recognized not only as beneficiaries, but as innovators and leaders. At the same time, we must ensure that women and girls have full and equal meaningful participation in science, technology, and decision-making spaces while addressing the rise of misinformation and exploitation. In closing, let us ensure that technology serves as a bridge, not as a barrier, that research informs justice, not inclusion, and that sustainable development remains rooted in dignity, equity, and shared humanity for the sake of humankind. Thank you.

I thank the representative of Word of Life Christian Fellowship, and I now give the floor to the representative of Concepts of Truth.

Thank you, excellencies and distinguished guests. As Albert Einstein once observed, quote, "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity," unquote. Actually, much of our reproductive technology has made it painfully simple to destroy our humanity. I represent Concepts of Truth, a mental health counseling organization that supports women and girls in sexual and maternal health. Concepts of Truth's helpline has received tens of thousands of calls, mostly from women suffering trauma from their abortions, abortions that UN agencies would define as legal and safe. The women who call us have been seriously harmed by the increasingly accessible technology of abortion, but they'll say they were never warned about these harms beforehand, harms like PTSD, substance abuse, and suicide ideation, harms which sometimes don't surface for decades and which devastate their loved ones. This is not just our experience. We network with many organizations serving many more thousands of women also harmed by their abortions, including the Justice Foundation, which obtained sworn affidavits from over 5,000 abortion victims. and filed them in an amicus brief with the US Supreme Court to limit abortion and protect women. For us, the issue of sexual and reproductive rights is not economic or political, but personal and tragic. The evidence against abortion isn't just based on our personal stories. Extensive, systematic, evidence-based research studies involving more than a million women confirm our experience. Scientific peer reviewed research shows that abortion has no scientifically demonstrated benefit for women, that abortion significantly increases the risk of serious psychiatric harms, sometimes by more than 81%, and that chemical abortion has four times the rate of harms as surgical abortion. So why aren't women warned about abortions harms? It's because the results of scientific research are suppressed by a multibillion dollar abortion industry that preys on those most vulnerable and markets the harms as choice. In the US, there's no national reporting of data for pregnancy harms at all. And for chemical abortions, the only harm that providers have to report is death. Even the World Health Organization acknowledges that mental health harms from the approximate 73 million abortions per year aren't even tracked by general hospitals globally. How can we say we want to help women and girls when we promote technologies that harm them, technologies which depopulate the planet? This is not progress under the SDGs. Thank you.

I thank the representative of Concepts of Truth. We have just heard the last speaker on my list. The Commission has thus concluded its general discussion under agenda item 3 as a whole. A delegation has demanded the right of reply under the rules of procedure of the technical commission. I will recall that the number of interventions is limited to two in the context of the right of reply. The first intervention is limited to five minutes and the second to three minutes. I give the floor to the representative of Israel.

Thank you, Madam Chair. If I'm already taking the floor, I'll say that it is important to hear the voices of civil society, but I found that some of the statements were quite transphobic and hateful, to be honest, so that's unfortunate. But to our statement, there's been a few remarks directed against my country, and I'm obliged to respond. Generally, anyone who use their limited statement as an opportunity to blame others is merely attempting to deflect attention from what is happening in their own country, rather than addressing the issue at hand. Not surprisingly, it is often those countries that constantly violate basic rights, support terror, and offer nothing to our debates. This, again, is only used to fuel false narrative against my country that is so easily spread in these halls. Outside these rooms and away from narrow political statements, our region is still not stable, and there are ongoing, delicate conversations among parties as we speak. I think that our job here is to support this effort, so I will just say that our support remains steadfast for the people and the women of Iran, who continue to pay a devastating price for their call for equal rights. They face systematic repression and violent responses to their rightful demand for freedom. I can only hope they will soon be able to reshape their country and future. Israel remains committed to working in collaboration in this session to achieve strong and ambitious outcome. that advances the principle of the program action of the ICJ. Thank you.

I thank the representative of Israel, and I now give the floor to the representative of the United States.

Thank you, Madam Chair. We are not here to discuss Operation Epic Fury or the ceasefire. We strongly reject the assertions regarding the United States and allied military operations against Iran. These allegations are particularly hypocritical, given Iran's own deliberate and indiscriminate attacks on civilian infrastructure in numerous countries across the Middle East. For decades, Iran has destabilized the region, threatened international peace and security, and repeatedly violated the UN Charter. It is responsible for a series of unprovoked armed attacks against the United States and Israel. Iran has done so not only directly, but also through its proxies, such as Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis. In close coordination with Israel, the United States has taken lawful actions to address these threats in line with Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations. Thank you.

I thank the representative of the United States. We have thus concluded our discussion for today. We will reconvene tomorrow morning at 10:00. Pardon me? I see one more request for the floor. I give the floor to the representative of Iran.

Thank you very much. I'm using my right of reply, right, and what has been probably heard in the room. When a wise sir, distinguished delegates, I'm not to glorify the baseless rhetoric against my delegation, but responding rather in this right of reply, I try to dismantle the cynical and hypocritical allegations labeled by the occupying of a tight Israeli regime, a regime whose very existence is built on the relentless slaughter of children and the systematic destruction of an entire population. The state genocidal occupant regime is no more of a regular standing to level accusations against any other member of this commission. While they stand here pointing fingers, Their hands are drenched in the blood of tens of thousands of Palestinians in Gaza alone. And let us present the hard truth, undisputable arithmetic of their genocide after this commission in just last three years. In Gaza, the Israeli war machine has committed orders to the state of humanity. More than 33,000 women and girls have been systematically killed. Over 45,000 women have been injured, more than 21,000 children have been killed, and over 44,500 children have been injured. This is not a conflict, this is a campaign of extermination. In the West Bank, the same brutal machinery of occupation is at work. More than 250 children have been murdered by Israeli forces. More than 750 children have been injured. Hundreds more women have been killed and injured. In Lebanon, sadly, the silent UN and the world is still watching for a new record of the regime's killing and genocide. Madam Chairman, the Israeli regime has shown the world its true face. They have bombed and destroyed places of worship with impunity, not just mosques, as you are accustomed to doing, but Christian churches as well. However, the most revealing testament to their savage nature is their direct assault on religious coexistence itself. In the recent cowardly aggression against my country, they did not spare our synagogue. They completely destroyed the Rafinia Synagogue in central Tehran, desecrating Torah scrolls and attacking a house of worship that had stood for over 70 years. This is standing in stark contrast to the Islamic Republic of Iran for over a millennium, our Jewish, Christian, and Zoroastrian compatriots have lived in security and dignity. Our constitution enshrines the right, the recognition, them as protected religious minorities. Our religious minorities are represented in our parliament. Iran is a tapestry of ethnicities and faiths, but all citizens enjoy equal rights under the law. For a rogue regime, war criminal, serial violator of international law, and a persistent threat to international peace and security, it has no difference to how many times we'd be identified as a genocidal entity. This play of crocodile tears is no longer effective. Thank you, Madam Chairperson.

I thank the representative of Iran, and I now give the floor to the representative of Israel for a second intervention.

Thank you, Chair. I'll be brief. For decades, Iran, sitting next to me, armed, fueled, and financed terror not only around Israel, but in every place in the world where you can find conflict.

I thank the representative of Israel, and I now give the floor to the representative of Iran for a second intervention.

Thank you again, Madam Chair. My delegation, on behalf of 168 schoolchildren of Minab, who lost their lives by a series of air strikes by the United States and categorically and strongly condemns the recent series of unlawful uses of force carried out by it. The attacks triggered by the end of last February were neither provoked or justified under international law. They constitute a clear violation of the UN Charter, in particular the prohibition of the threat or use of force, and must be regarded as war crimes under international humanitarian law. The air and missile strikes of June 2025 similarly fell outside any lawful framework. The UN Charter is not a menu of optional commitments. Respect for the principles of sovereign equality, non-intervention, and the prohibition of the use of force is an obligation incumbent on all Member States without exception. repeatedly disregards these foundations through unilateral military action, it does not merely endanger individual countries, it undermines multilateralism. The state's persistent resource to coercive measures and unprovoked attacks risks branding it in the eyes of history as a rogue actor rather than a responsible member of the international community. Such conduct cannot be normalized or executed as policy choice. The United States must be accountable for its violation of international law. Thank you.

I thank the representative of Iran. The Commission has thus concluded its discussion under this item. We will reconvene tomorrow morning at 10:00 in this conference room to hold a panel of national experts on agenda item 4, followed by an interactive discussion. This meeting is adjourned.