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La suspensión o disolución impuesta por las autoridades debe ser una medida de último recurso y contar con garantías judiciales y posibilidades de impugnación."},{"key":"union-membership-discrimination","label":"Afiliación sindical y no discriminación","description":"Se analiza el derecho a afiliarse o no a un sindicato sin sufrir discriminación, presiones ni represalias. También se discute su compatibilidad con las normas de la OIT y con los supuestos en que puede admitirse una afiliación obligatoria."},{"key":"extraterritorial-state-obligations","label":"Obligaciones extraterritoriales de los Estados","description":"Se analiza el alcance de las obligaciones estatales respecto de personas fuera del territorio nacional que estén bajo su jurisdicción, poder o control efectivo. 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