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you Ambassador Fike for giving me the floor Excellencies distinguished guests colleagues and friends Thank you for being here today On behalf of the Afghanistan Policy Lab at Princeton School of Public and International Affairs I want to express my sincere appreciation to our co organizers the permanent mission of Afghanistan to the United Nations the Afghanistan Justice Archive and Gender Apartheid Campaign and the Georgetown Institute for Women Peace and Security for their partnership and helping us to bring this important conversation together For me speaking about Afghanistan in this room is not simply a professional responsibility It is deeply personal as well I grew up in Kabul I grew up knowing what it mean for violence to shape ordinary life hearing rockets seeing fear become part of childhood hearing and understanding what terrible and difficult situation means for young kids And most importantly what really peace meant more than the absence of fighting it meant being able to go to school It meant having a future And it meant having a voice in decisions about our own life and our own country After years of working on Afghanistan as a diplomat policymaker and now through APL at SPIA I have come to believe that one of the most important questions we need to ask is not simply how do we end conflict It is what kind of peace are we trying to build and for whom Five years after Taliban returned to power Afghanistan may be quieter in some respect but the reduction in violence alone does not constitute peace Sustainable peace requires justice It requires dignity and the rule of law and protection for all and every citizen Regardless of their gender or ethnicity Accountable institutions in the ability of people to meaningfully shape their country's future This is especially important when we speak about Afghan women I have spent much of my professional life in the rooms where decisions about Afghanistan were being made One lesson has become very clear to me Afghan women as ambassador if I exited simply cannot be the subject of policies They must help shape those policies and the political future of their country Afghan women cannot be treated as victims only They are political actors as we all know They are leaders They are educators They are community organizers They are advocates and peace builders Even under very extraordinary restrictions they continue to advocate for the rights and aspiration of all Afghan people So meaningful participation cannot mean simply inviting women into parallel consultations after the important decisions have been already made Being heard is not the same as having influence And this brings us to justice I've Afghanistan Afghanistan has endured decades of conflict displacement political exclusion atrocities and unresolved grievances These experiences do not disappear when the fighting becomes quieter They remain within the families they remain within the communities and they become a painful collective memory of the entire society There is often a perception that justice must wait for peace that accountability makes reconciliation more difficult I believe we need to challenge that assumption For those who have suffered justice is part of peace Acknowledgement is part of healing and reconciliation cannot mean asking victims and survivors to simply move on without recognition of what they have experienced Therefore the question before us as is not whether Afghanistan needs peace or justice It needs both Today I hope we can move from describing these challenges to thinking very concretely about what comes next What wouldn't include an inclusive political future look like for all Afghans including women and youth What does meaningful participation by women actually require And how can justice and account accountability contribute to reconciliation and social trust And what can the United Nations member states regional actors and international partners do differently to support that future where 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